Climate Change is real and electric cars help reduce the transport sectors contribution to greenhouse gases.
If you watch climate deniers (CDs) they basically try to exhaust anyone trying to reduce their carbon footprint or publicly make a case for climate change. In a forum hundreds will pile on in a gang, many nasty name callers, some argument regurgitators from Fox or petrodollar sites, and a few believers. So lets not tire myself writing endless rebuttals when a number of science based sites have it down pat. First up consensus in science, from our science video log friend Joe:
There is climate change consensus in science
Every major CD argument is busted here
If your petrodollar funded argument is already debunked on this site, I will simply point to it. Removing a great deal of wasted time. Which is one of goals of the advertising agency, the same one used for cigarette companies, hired by the oil and conservative lobbies. FUD is not going to be used to waste our time here.
So electric cars have their own carbon and climate change cost - therefore gas!
Even well to wheels examinations of electrics vs gas which include the climate costs of battery building and all other components, find electric cars in worst case coal generated electric areas to be more efficient. The study is quite conservative as well - not much examining just how often EV owners have solar roofs, keep EVs longer, or turn in batteries for recycle and alternative use. Electrics win period.
Money. Money is everything. Screw grandkids etc. I live my limited lifetime only for Money. Therefore gas!
You still lose. Gas cars are still a little cheaper upfront. They are more costly overall due to the cost of gas plain and simple. They will soon be cheaper upfront as economy of scale hits. Even today though add in fuel and maintenance the Electric Vehicle (EV) is cheaper! For those with very tight budgets consider a used Chevy Volt. This car has 40 mile battery range supplemented by gas for long trips. It's battery has proven very long life with minimal degradation and the overall maintenance as a used car is very low. Finally used models can be found in the $10-15K range.
Batteries are toxic! The Sky is falling! Therefore gas!
Batteries in the past maybe. Lead acid, Nickel Cadmium. Even those recycle well. Lithium is plentiful and can be mined low impact from salt flats. Recycling can happen in stages now - first being using whole exhausted car systems in home backup. Then after an additional ten to twenty years doing that, we are next going down to full materials recycling. The most problematic trace element Cobalt is now down to less than 0.5 percent in a Tesla Model 3 battery sled. Here again Tesla has committed to full recycling of all the materials in their batteries.
That should block 99% of the Climate Skeptic Trolls. Anything new needed from comments I'll post below.
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